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This is the first interview of Sink & Swim 2026, and Julie kicks off Season 2 with Dr. Brianne Grogan (“Dr. Bri”)—a pelvic health PT known for a massive YouTube presence who just made a wildly brave move: she stopped creating for that channel (December 2025), not because she stopped caring, but because she outgrew the role. Together, they talk in real time—not from a polished “I’ve arrived” place—about what it’s like to be mid–identity shift: secrecy vs. self-expression, rule-following vs. nuance, and the grief of outgrowing old clients, colleagues, and belonging. Bri shares her emerging identity as a Body Medicine Journey Facilitator—where medicine meets magic—and why “weirdness” is often self-judgment wearing a familiar voice. They also go deep into what modern care often misses: intimacy, safety, and presence. Bri names how her work is returning to in-person, hands-on care in her “healing house” in Bend, Oregon—rooted, luxurious, and profoundly human. The episode closes with an embodied mini-practice for anyone feeling a quiet nudge toward something truer—without pressure to leap. 03:49 — From YouTube Sensation to the Threshold Introducing Dr. Breanne Grogan and the moment she realized she’d outgrown her public pelvic health identity. 07:11 — Life in the Healing House Empty nesting, relocation, and why place, home, and rooting matter in identity shifts. 10:01 — “Body Medicine Journey Facilitator” Outgrowing traditional pelvic health and naming work where medicine meets magic. 14:39 — December 2025: Choosing to Stop Ending a 15-year YouTube chapter, resentment as information, and reclaiming agency. 18:06 — Rule Followers, Black-and-White Thinking, and the Messy Middle Straight-A conditioning, safety through rigidity, and learning to integrate “both.” 24:10 — Weirdness, Woo, and Inherited Stories Family narratives, self-judgment, and realizing the chains were never real. 34:31 — Grief, Belonging, and Outgrowing the PT Role Leaving clients and colleagues without betrayal; sister wounds and exile. 46:17 — Collapse, Business Divorce, and Clarity The implosion that revealed what she can do—and what she no longer wants to carry. 1:04:20 — Water Balloons & Willow Trees What freedom actually feels like in the body, rooted expansiveness, and a closing practice for listening without pressure.