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A conversation between Cathy and I about gestalt being—not as theory, but as lived coherence. Family scripts, shared meaning, professional erasure, and the quiet refusal to dismantle what already works. Evidence lives here. Some conversations don’t begin with a question. They begin with pressure—end of term, accumulated witnessing, too many whole things arriving at once. This episode came from that place. Not a neat idea. Not a position statement. A saturation point. What you’ll hear is not an argument for gestalt processing. It’s a life lived inside it. Whole-to-part knowing that does not queue politely, that does not wait for permission, that arrives fully formed and only later reveals its internal weather. Language here is not a tool being demonstrated; it is a medium being breathed. The examples—family scripts, shared suffixes, a single word that carries an entire day—are not anecdotes offered as evidence. They are the evidence. Again and again, the conversation brushes up against a familiar violence: the demand to prove what can only be recognised. To extract justification from intimacy. To dismantle meaning until nothing living remains. Randomised control trials are invoked like holy water, as if relational coherence were a contaminant rather than the very condition under which language works at all. There is grief here too—quiet, professional, cumulative. The experience of moving through autism spaces where one’s own mind is a ghost. Where lived knowledge is treated as disruption. Where attunement is mistaken for bias, and presence for threat. And still, despite that, there is care. Families holding shared meaning across decades. Educators recognising thresholds instead of deficits. A refusal to pull apart what is keeping someone whole. This is not a podcast about explaining autism. It is about refusing to disappear from the explanation. If you listen slowly, you may notice that nothing here is asking to be dismantled. It is asking, instead, to be allowed to remain intact. As a programme note, we’re taking the holiday off to be with family and friends. Cathy and I will return after the holiday. Enjoy. The AutSide is a reader-supported publication. To support my work, consider becoming a paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit autside.substack.com/subscribe (https://autside.substack.com/subscrib...)