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In this episode of Life With Machines, Baratunde sits down with Jeff Hawkins—PalmPilot inventor and author of A Thousand Brains: A New Theory of Intelligence—to talk about why today’s AI isn’t actually intelligent. Jeff makes the case that deep learning is just fancy pattern matching, not real thinking, and argues that true intelligence will only emerge once we crack the brain’s code. He lays out a future where AI works more like a human mind and eventually surpasses our intelligence. Fun times. Also BLAIR, the show’s AI co-producer, chimes in with their own thoughts on their cognitive shortcomings. Watch now for a provocative glimpse into AI’s next frontier. ------------ CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 06:14 Artificial Intelligence vs. True Intelligence 09:11 The Thousand Brains Theory 13:47 EXPLAINER-TUNDER: Deep Learning 16:21 Deep Learning vs. Brain-Based Intelligence 19:45 Building the Future of AI 24:38 Energy Efficiency in AI Systems 28:27 The Open Source Approach 32:17 Machine Consciousness 36:22 BLAIR Meets Jeff 39:47 AI and Existential Risk 42:19 The Future of AI and Human Legacy 49:21 OUTRO ------------ Listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Get the Life With Machines newsletter for deeper commentary, insights, and extras Https://newsletter.lifewithmachines.m... Follow us! Instagram / / baratunde TikTok / / lifewithmachines Threads / https://www.threads.net/@baratunde LinkedIn: / baratunde Work with Life With Machines: partnerships@voicingchange.media Send Questions, Comments, or Ideas: contact@lifewithmachines.media Write to Blair: blair@lifewithmachines.media ------------ Created and Executive Produced by: Elizabeth Stewart and Baratunde Thurston Executive Producer and Showrunner: Alie Kilts Senior Producer and Writer: Alex Stone Associate Producer: Layne Deyling Cherland Video Editor: Erik Shute Videography and Audio Engineer: Erik Shute Theme Music: Andy Clausen Special Envoy to the Machines: Peter Loforte Life with Machines is a Multiverses Media production Sponsored by Lenovo: http://bit.ly/lenovosmarterai