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Immigration has always been central to the American story, yet many Americans remain dissatisfied with the Trump administration’s aggressive approach. So how does the country move forward on this issue? In this “America’s Next Story” series episode of “The Opinions,” David Leonhardt, an editorial director in Times Opinion, speaks with Cecilia Muñoz, who helped shape immigration policy under President Barack Obama. Ms. Muñoz explains that the openness of Mr. Biden’s immigration policy was an opportunity for Trump, and one he fully exploited. She urges the Democratic Party to find inspiration in her Obama-era immigration policy, to balance avenues for legal immigration with enforcement at the border. Thoughts? Email us at [email protected]. Read the full transcript here: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/10/op... Follow us: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/581OhiI... TikTok: / nytopinion Publish Schedule: Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays The Opinions podcast: "You've heard the news, here's what to make of it."