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Vigorous Steve is known for his no-nonsense approach to bodybuilding, hormones, and performance enhancement, and in this episode, he brings that same clarity to a wide-ranging conversation on how to optimise your body without destroying your health. We talk about how to use PEDs responsibly (if at all), why blood work is non-negotiable, and what most people get wrong about testosterone, fertility, and recovery. Steve also opens up about his own journey, how he changed his mind about certain compounds, what he prioritises now, and how to think long-term in a space driven by shortcuts. 00:00 Introduction 02:00 Why some physiques respond better than others 04:23 Steve’s first steroid cycle and the results he saw 09:53 Key blood markers to check before starting TRT 12:12 Why lifestyle changes should come before any injections 15:24 The mental crash after coming off TRT explained 17:45 Bodybuilding logic vs long-term health optimisation 21:02 Stem cells, testosterone levels, and healing properly 24:14 More regular people turning to health optimisation stacks 28:36 Estrogen management, aromatase inhibitors, and common mistakes 32:51 Hair loss, gyno, and steroid side effects that aren't always drug-related 36:15 Growth hormone myths, cosmetic perks, and anti-aging hype 39:17 Mini stacks women use without virilising side effects 44:40 Taurine, creatine, and underrated supplement combinations 49:49 The appeal of mitochondrial stacks for performance and recovery 55:46 Mike's curiosity about sustaining peak physique over time 58:33 Mitochondrial support as a performance game changer 1:03:56 Safe fat loss: mitochondrial peptides vs traditional stimulants 1:08:05 Why retatrutide is a game changer for appetite control 1:16:19 Are peptides just another health fad or here to stay? 1:25:38 The big gap: promising compounds with no human data DISCLAIMER Nothing shared on this podcast is a substitute for professional medical guidance. Please consult a healthcare professional before making any health or lifestyle changes. Hack You Media → Instagram: / hackyoumedia → TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hack.you.medi... → More from Hack You: https://hackyou.media/#aa19104a-abc1-... » Follow Vadim« Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vadim_bioni... Bioniq: https://www.bioniq.com/ » Follow Mike« YouTube: @MikeThurston Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikethursto... First Things THRST: @FirstThingsThrst » Follow Steve« Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vigorousste... Website: https://linktr.ee/vigoroussteve