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Benjamin Williams, a junior at Columbia University in 2024-2025, is double-majoring in French and Francophone Studies, as well as German Literature and Cultural History. In this episode, Ben talks about his passion for languages and shares his experiences learning German, French, Italian, and Ancient Greek. He also reflects on his work in an advanced French course, where he collaborated with Francophone asylum seekers in New York City. He then discusses his volunteer efforts at Afrikana, an organization dedicated to supporting Black, Arab, and Muslim newcomers facing challenges in accessing legal aid, shelter, employment, and benefits. https://www.afri-kana.org/ Listen and subscribe to Said and Done on your favorite podcast app: https://linktr.ee/saidanddone #languagelearning #podcast #languagelearning #columbia #columbiauniversity #interview #languages #french #german #ancientgreek #asylumseekers #refugees 0:00 intro 0:55 Studying French 1:53 Studying Ancient Greek 3:12 Studying German 3:40 Studying Italian 5:01 Learning German more quickly than French 7:40 Why are you so interested in learning languages? 9:02 Connecting with others through language learning 10:11 Reactions among peers to studying languages 12:57 What works and what doesn't in language teaching? 17:00 Taking an upper-level French class on asylum seeking in NYC 22:10 Volunteering with Afrikana to help with interpreting for asylum seekers 23:55 Reflecting on a "high stakes" use of linguistic knowledge 26:40 Paths of language learning from the classroom to real world situations