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In this episode of Finding Hope on the Spectrum, Brooke sits down with Gail Ludwig, a veteran speech-language pathologist and RDI-certified consultant with over 40 years of experience supporting neurodivergent individuals and their families. Together, they take a deep dive into co-regulation—what it is, why it matters, and how it supports both emotional and physical regulation through connection. Gail shares real-life examples from her decades of work, explaining how dynamic, movement-based, and non-static activities can foster engagement and reduce stress. The conversation centers on shifting away from compliance-based approaches and toward relationship-driven support, where invitation, curiosity, and shared experience lead the way. Listeners will walk away with practical tips, simple activity ideas, and small shifts parents and professionals can try right away to strengthen connection, reduce challenges, and support regulation in everyday moments. This episode is a meaningful resource for parents, caregivers, and professionals seeking more authentic, compassionate ways to support autistic individuals. 00:00 Breaking the Ice in Tense Meetings 01:10 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum 01:50 Introducing Gail Ludwig 02:06 Understanding Co-Regulation 04:53 The Basics of Co-Regulation 06:59 Emotional and Physical Co-Regulation 15:54 The Power of Invitation in Co-Regulation 18:51 Introducing Variations and Challenges 32:31 Creating Meaningful Co-Regulatory Patterns 33:27 The Importance of Reducing Challenges 35:09 Simple Activities for Engagement 38:16 Varying Activities to Maintain Interest 40:24 Balancing Goals and Connection in Therapy 45:49 Encouraging Authentic Conversations 51:10 The Power of Genuine Curiosity 55:40 Conclusion and Resources Connect with Finding Hope on the Spectrum: Email: bwagner@findinghopeonthespectrum.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?... Linkedin: / brooke-wagner-4819233a Instagram: @findinghopeonthespectrum TikTok: Findinghopeonthespectrum Guest Contact: Website: www.tagforgrowth.com Facebook: / therapeuticapproachtogrowth