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If you’re a high-income earner and you’ve realized you make too much to contribute directly to a Roth IRA, you’ve probably hit what we call the “Roth wall.” And if you’ve been taught for years that the Roth is the holy grail… that wall can feel like the end of the road. In this episode, Christian Allen and Rod “the Pod” Zabriskie zoom out and reframe the question. Because wealth builders aren’t just hunting for the best tax container—they’re building a system. A Roth can be a powerful tool inside that system, but for many high-income earners, it’s often a small piece of the overall wealth equation (especially when you’re saving serious dollars every year). They break down what options actually exist—like Roth conversions, the backdoor Roth, and the mega backdoor Roth (with the real-world caveat that plan rules can limit what’s possible). Then they go deeper: the bigger win is designing a capital system built for liquidity, optionality, smart deployment, and consistent principles—so you can invest well beyond the defaults of “IRA then brokerage” and into opportunities that match your goals. This is a conversation about moving from rules to strategy—about using tax optimization as one part of a bigger framework that also includes leverage, velocity, cash flow, estate maximization, and asset protection. And for many investors, that system is anchored by an “opportunity fund” approach—often using high cash value life insurance as a liquidity base to deploy into real estate and other alternative investments. Key Takeaways The Roth IRA is a tool, not a strategy—and it’s often a small tool for high-income earners. There are ways around the “Roth wall” (conversions, backdoor, mega backdoor), but they come with rules and limitations. Wealth builders focus on systems, not containers—prioritizing liquidity, optionality, and smart deployment. Tax optimization isn’t one silver bullet; it’s about diversifying tax treatment across assets and time. Many successful investors use an opportunity fund model to deploy capital into real estate and other alternatives. Money Insights is a strategic planning firm that is founded on the principle that "off-the-shelf" products and solutions often do not meet the needs of high-income earners. The Money Insights team works to collaboratively design customized financial solutions that will leave a lasting impact on each of their unique clients. To stay connected and get access inside our community, you can join the Investment Insider Series at https://www.moneyinsightsgroup.com/in... As always, we'd love chat with you. You can schedule a free strategy call with us by clicking here https://www.moneyinsightsgroup.com/ca... Money Insights does not endorse or recommend specific investments. All content is for educational purposes only. Participants should conduct their own due diligence and consult with licensed financial, legal, and tax professionals before investing. Money Insights does not offer securities, investment advice, or guarantees. Past performance is not indicative of future results, and all investments carry risk.