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In this episode of the Attaching to God podcast, we explore the often overlooked emotional struggles faced by leaders. Our guests are Nicholas and Sheila Wise Rowe. Nicholas Rowe is the Haslin Associate Professor of Leadership at Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary. And Sheila Wise Row is a seasoned counselor and author (and previous podcast guest). We talk about their new book, Healing Leadership Trauma: Finding Emotional Health and Helping Others Flourish. The conversation delves into the impact of trauma, attachment theory, and the myths of self-sufficiency in leadership. They also cover systemic challenges such as racial and gender trauma and share practical embodied practices for healing. 00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Trauma 00:44 Meet the Authors: Nicholas Row and Sheila Wise Row 02:04 The Journey of Co-Writing 'Healing Leadership' 03:16 Understanding Leadership Challenges 06:54 Attachment Theory and Leadership 09:06 Insecure Attachment in Leadership 17:00 The Myth of Self-Sufficiency in Leadership 22:12 Systemic Dynamics: Gender and Racial Trauma 25:45 Historical Context of Cultural Systems 26:35 Challenges Faced by Marginalized Leaders 28:10 Gender Expectations and Leadership 30:36 Defining Leadership Trauma 32:32 Embodied Practices for Healing 37:54 Community Support and Accountability 45:37 Final Thoughts and Staying Connected