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What actually breaks when a company scales—and why does it so often happen between 30 and 100 employees? This conversation with Matt Blumberg goes straight at the uncomfortable truth: most companies don’t stall because of product or market fit. They stall because the CEO hasn’t scaled yet. Matt has built companies from zero to $100M+, served as CEO and executive chair, advised hundreds of founders, and written the go-to books on being a startup CEO, CXO, and board member. In this episode, he shares the moments where he nearly broke himself—and the frameworks he developed to avoid breaking again. This is a practical, honest discussion about feedback, coaching, leadership teams, boards, and why scaling yourself is the hardest (and most important) work a founder can do. Key Discussion Points 00:00 – Why companies really break as they scale 01:40 – What “breaking” looks like for a CEO 03:00 – Matt Blumberg’s near-breaking moment as a first-time CEO 04:20 – Why getting a coach changed everything 07:40 – The real meaning of “scaling yourself” 09:55 – Why the 30–100 employee stage is so dangerous 11:40 – The two teams every CEO must scale: leadership & board 14:05 – How to actually invest in leadership team growth 16:40 – Coach vs mentor vs peer group (and why all three matter) 18:00 – How to ask for, process, and act on feedback 21:00 – Why operating systems become the company’s lifeblood 23:40 – When leaders must stop telling and start asking 26:00 – Why boards need to scale too 28:00 – Why being a student of the craft never stops About Matt Blumberg LinkedIn: / blumbergmatt Email: matt@markup.ai Personal Blog: https://startupceo.com (22 years of CEO insights) Company: https://markup.ai Matt's Books on Amazon Startup CEO: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=startup+ce... Startup Boards: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=startup+bo... Startup CXO: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=startup+cx... Before you go: 👍 Like this if it resonates 🔔 Subscribe for more real conversations on leadership and scale 💬 Comment with the takeaway that hit closest to home 🔗 Share with someone navigating growth right now #ScalingWithoutBreaking #MattBlumberg #StartupLeadership #FounderGrowth #CEODevelopment #ExecutiveCoaching #CompanyBuilding #Leadership