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What if your phone was designed to help you disconnect? In this episode, we meet David Sanmartin, co‑founder of Nothing and former EU Director at OnePlus, two of the most iconic brands in consumer tech. After seven years helping OnePlus sell over a million smartphones, David decided to start over and build something radically different: a tech company that restores trust in technology. Nothing challenges the status quo of the smartphone industry through transparency, minimalist design, and intentional software. We explore: • Why David left a €500M smartphone unicorn to start from zero • How social media made us the product — and how to fix it • What “technical warmth” means and why Nothing feels human • How to design technology that reduces noise and adds meaning • The race for specs vs the race for trust • How Nothing saves 800 tons of CO₂ through circular manufacturing • The parallels between capitalism and technology — and why both need redesign Chapters: 00:00 – Why Nothing exists: restoring trust in tech 01:14 – From biomedical science to China’s early tech boom 05:50 – How OnePlus sold 1M phones in its first year 13:31 – Startup burnout, relocation, and deciding to quit 18:04 – Founding Nothing: transparency as a design philosophy 20:14 – What makes Nothing different from other tech giants 24:46 – Intentional software: using your phone less, not more 26:06 – The Nothing ecosystem: phones, earphones, and wearables 30:16 – Manufacturing with 60 tons of recycled materials 33:08 – The 800 tons of CO₂ saved through upcycling 35:04 – Branding with emotion: the art of “technical warmth” 38:18 – Capitalism vs tech: when scale kills soul 42:24 – Changing how people think about technology 45:00 – David’s next dream: AI‑powered medicine and drug discovery 💼 Connect with David Sanmartin on LinkedIn – / dasanmartin 🔗 Learn more about Nothing – https://nothing.tech 📥 Apply to join the Nothing team – https://careers.nothing.tech/ 🎧 Reinventing Capitalism is the podcast where we decode the success of for‑profit, mission‑driven businesses — hosted by Claudia Tomas. If you enjoyed this episode, please: 1. Follow the show 2. Leave a review 3. Share with someone who wants to make an impact 🔗 Learn more about Reinventing Capitalism – www.reinventingcapitalism.xyz Keywords: Nothing tech, David Sanmartin, OnePlus, Carl Pei, transparent smartphones, minimalist design, sustainable technology, purpose‑driven innovation, circular economy, consumer electronics, trust in technology, green tech, intentional tech, design for impact, smartphone sustainability, Reinventing Capitalism