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Autistic PhD Rethinks Fitness: Dr. Mark Fleming on Real Inclusion, Sensory-Aware Training, and Strength That Lasts What happens when movement science meets lived experience? I sit down with Dr. Mark Fleming to rethink fitness for neurodivergent people. Dr. Mark earned a PhD in Kinesiology, built the inclusive fitness brand Equally Fit, and he’s autistic. In this conversation, I reveal how his perspective challenges tired stereotypes and why his approach helps people build strength without shame, overwhelm, or sensory overload. You’ll discover the gaps he saw in therapy-to-life transition, how he designs truly inclusive sessions that change daily with the person, and a simple cue he uses that turns “I can’t” into steady progress. We also get into what the research misses, how ableism shows up in gyms and PE, and the surprising thing that made his clients realize they were stronger than they thought. If you’ve ever wondered how to make movement feel safe, effective, and sustainable for autistic and disabled folks—at home, in school, or in a gym—this one will get you thinking. And yes, we talk practical: sensory-friendly setups, off-hours training, and the one metric that matters more than the number on a barbell. About the Guest Dr. Mark Fleming is a PhD in Kinesiology and the founder of Equally Fit, a fitness brand serving people with disabilities through adaptive, person-first training. Timestamps: 0:00 – Why Mark’s path to a PhD and a fitness brand started with seeing a gap 4:26 – Diagnosis, identity, and unlearning harmful narratives 9:29 – Research that questions ableism: who “gets” to exercise? 12:24 – Challenging the “uncoordinated and uninterested” stereotype 13:37 – What inclusive fitness really looks like day to day 16:41 – Tailoring programs without overloading the nervous system 18:01 – Building trust: referrals, events, and reducing gym intimidation 22:16 – A small adaptation that changed squat form—and confidence 23:56 – What the industry gets wrong about neurodivergent clients 26:38 – Movement, executive function, and emotional regulation 32:11 – PE, gyms, and why “one size fits all” shuts people out 39:23 – Reclaiming fitness in a field that didn’t make space 46:39 – A future where disabled leaders set the standard 48:24 – Where to start if fitness feels overwhelming Listen, share, and subscribe for more conversations that support neurodivergent people and the communities around us. Connect with Mark at equallyfit.com and find him on social as official_dr_mark. #Neurodiversity #AutismAccepta