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Helping the Helpers: Maria Zabeti on Fatigue, Boundaries, CBT, and Brainspotting Dr. Bethany Valenti interviews Maria Zabeti, a California-licensed marriage and family therapist who specializes in working with helping professionals. Maria shares her path to therapy as a second career after years of service-oriented work, including as a medical assistant, and explains her passion for connecting with people and being part of their stories. They discuss common themes among helpers—fatigue, resentment, rumination, stress, anxiety, feeling unappreciated at work and at home, difficulty identifying personal needs and values, and challenges with boundaries that can be rooted in childhood roles and family messages. Maria describes her clinical approach using CBT (including a negative thought journal, feelings charts, evidence for/against thoughts, and alternative thoughts), values clarification, and boundary-setting as gradual “muscle-building,” along with elements of positive psychology focused on self-esteem and self-love. She also explains how and when she introduces brainspotting for trauma and difficult emotions. To learn more about Maria: Website: https://zabetipsychotherapy.com/ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/th... To learn more about Bethany Valenti, PsyD: www.bethanyvalenti.com / sayhellotoyourtherapistpodcast / bethanyvalentipsyd / bethany-valenti-psyd-61579092524236 Things we talked about: Maybe You Should Talk to Someone by Lori Gottlieb Feelings Wheel Brainspotting 00:00 Welcome + Meet Maria Zabeti (Helping the Helpers) 01:12 Maria’s Path to Therapy: From Medical Assistant to MFT 04:13 Why Psychology Over HR: The Need for Real Connection 06:00 Who Are “Helping Professionals”? Defining the Umbrella 09:24 The Appreciation Gap: Stress at Work and at Home 10:39 Over-Functioning, Exhaustion & Resentment (The Push-Pull) 17:05 Losing Yourself: Needs, Hobbies, and Values Clarification 19:47 Tools in Session: Feelings Charts to Unlock Emotions 24:42 CBT for Helpers: Negative Thought Journal + Reality Testing 28:11 CBT Example: “My Boss Doesn’t Appreciate Me” Reframed 33:16 Pros, Cons, and Next Steps When Work Isn’t Meeting Your Needs 34:20 Your Worth Isn’t Your Job: Meaning, Identity, and Self-Esteem 35:30 Setting Boundaries at Work (After-Hours Calls & Saying No) 37:28 Where People-Pleasing Starts: Childhood Roles and Learned Beliefs 39:45 Roadblocks to Change: Spouse Expectations, Pressure, and Feeling Trapped 41:39 When to Use Brainspotting: Trauma, Loss, and Toxic Relationship Stress 46:52 How Brainspotting Works: Eye Position, Body Sensations, and Debriefing 54:43 Wrap-Up Q&A: Practice Details, Self-Care, Misconceptions, and Where to Find Her