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Ever wondered what it’s really like to work as an interim Chief People Officer/Chief Human Resources Officer? In this episode, you’ll get an inside look at the role and the skills that help you succeed, so you can decide if it could be your perfect career option. I’m joined by Dotty Day - interim HR leader, strategy consultant, and founder of Nu Leaf and gighrly. With over 15 years’ experience in people strategy, organisation design, and culture transformation, Dotty shares her unconventional journey to the interim CPO role, the realities of it, and practical tips you can use straight away. HR Coffee Time | Episode 151 You’ll discover: ̇• Why developing commercial acumen should mean learning from marketing as well as finance • How to say “no” without damaging relationships – and protect yourself from burnout • An influencing strategy to get buy-in for your ideas before the meeting even starts • Why avoiding HR jargon helps you connect with the business • The mindset and adaptability needed to thrive in interim work ⏩ Jump to a specific part of the episode using the chapter markers below: ⏱️ CHAPTERS [00:00] Welcome and introduction to Dotty Day [03:18] Dotty’s unconventional route to becoming an interim CPO [09:53] Recognising and addressing burnout [11:50] Learning to say “no” – and how to do it effectively [16:06] The differences between senior HR roles and the CPO remit [20:00] How to develop commercial acumen (beyond finance) [28:21] Board-level realities and influencing for impact [33:20] Key skills, habits, and practices for CPO success [40:00] The biggest challenges in the role – and how to address them [43:46] Advice for aspiring CPOs [45:12] Advice for new CPOs starting their first role [47:44] What to consider before moving into interim work [49:00] Final reflections USEFUL LINKS 🔗 Connect with Fay on LinkedIn: / faywallis 🌐 Visit Fay’s website: https://brightskycareercoaching.co.uk 🔗 Connect with Dotty Day on LinkedIn: / dottyday 🌐 Visit Nu Leaf: https://www.nuleafchange.co.uk/ 🌐 Visit gighrly: https://www.gighrly.com/ 🌟 RESOURCES TO SUPPORT YOUR CAREER 🎓 Inspiring HR Leadership – Fay’s accredited leadership development programme for aspiring and existing HR leaders: 📝 The Essential HR Planner – Plan your goals, stay focused, and make a bigger impact at work: https://essentialhrplanner.co.uk/ 💌 Free Weekly Newsletter – Career tips, leadership ideas & podcast updates: https://brightskycareercoaching.kit.c... OTHER RELEVANT HR COFFEE TIME EPISODES 🎧 Ep 7: What To Do When There Aren’t Enough Hours in the Day: https://brightskycareercoaching.co.uk... 🎧 Ep 86: How to Stop Other People Taking Credit for Your Ideas in Meetings: https://brightskycareercoaching.co.uk... 🎧 Ep 103: Career Options in HR – Is Contracting the Perfect Fit for You?: https://brightskycareercoaching.co.uk... 🎧 Ep 123: Avoid Burnout – How to Spot Signs of Stress & Take Action: https://brightskycareercoaching.co.uk... 💬 Which part of Dotty’s advice resonated most with you? Let me know in the comments – I’d love to hear your thoughts. 🔔 If you enjoyed this episode, please like the video, subscribe to the channel, and share it with a friend or colleague in HR. Thank you for supporting the show!