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Here are three big ideas from this Change Signal conversation with Helen Bevan: Belonging isn’t about sameness—it’s the foundation for change, and it works only when people are valued for their differences, not absorbed into the status quo. Social capital—not expertise, resources, or methodology—is what actually determines whether large-scale transformation moves forward or quietly falls apart. And agency isn’t something leaders “give”—it’s something people build through small, meaningful experiments that shift how work really gets done. Helen Bevan — senior change leader inside the NHS and a pioneering voice in large-scale transformation — joins me to explore why change succeeds or stalls for reasons most leaders overlook. We talk about belonging as a core condition for performance, why “unbelonging” is just as important, and what relational patterns reveal about how power and influence flow inside complex systems. Helen shows how leaders can create the conditions for movement by building social connection, making space for experimentation, and supporting people to grow their own agency. She explains why big transformation programs often lose momentum, how “Trojan mice” outperform giant pilots, and why fear in the system — not resistance — slows teams down. You’ll hear practical tools — from network-based change strategies to routines that cultivate agency — that help you navigate complexity with more clarity, trust, and traction. If you lead transformation, culture change, or large-scale initiatives in complex organizations, this episode offers perspective, grounding, and practices to help change travel further and faster. 🎯 What You’ll Learn 00:00 – Introduction 02:10 – Why belonging shapes performance 06:25 – The science of social capital 11:40 – What network patterns reveal about change 15:55 – Why “empowerment” doesn’t build agency 20:30 – Trojan mice vs. Trojan horses 24:15 – How leaders reduce fear in the system 28:40 – Collective agency and peer influence 33:05 – Building for emergence, not certainty 💡 About Helen Bevan Helen Bevan is one of the NHS’s most influential change leaders, known for her work in large-scale transformation, social movement thinking, and capability-building for change agents across complex systems. Her work helps leaders create conditions where people connect, experiment, and act with greater agency. 👉 Resources & Links Subscribe to the Change Signal newsletter – https://www.thechangesignal.com More episodes –@ChangeSignal 🏷️ Tags #HelenBevan, #ChangeSignal, #ChangeLeadership, #TransformationLeadership, #OrganizationalChange, #ComplexityLeadership, #BelongingAtWork, #SocialCapital, #Agency, #ChangeManagement, #LeadershipDevelopment, #SystemsChange, #EmergentStrategy