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In this powerful episode of The Joy! A.A.C.T.™ Podcast, Dr. Lisa Summerour breaks down the least-discussed stage of the loss cycle: depression. With honesty, clarity, and compassion, she explains why depression during divorce is not a failure—it’s a natural, human response to loss. Drawing from her own journey and the teachings of Dr. Kübler-Ross, Dr. Lisa helps you understand the difference between grief-related depression and clinical depression, why emotions repeat in cycles, and why avoiding the sadness actually slows healing. You’ll hear practical tools to help you move through the heaviness—timed emotional processing, movement, grounding, connection, and simple self-care that keeps your mind and body supported. This episode gives language to what you’re feeling, anchors your experience in truth, and reminds you of this: You’re not broken. You’re grieving. And you’re going to make it through this. Learn more about the 4 Essential Steps to Creating Joy After a Difficult Divorce at www.dr-lisa.life/JoyBeyondDivorce 00:00 Embracing the Full Range of Emotions 00:22 Welcome to The Joy! A.A.C.T.™ Podcast 01:00 What Depression Really Is in the Loss Cycle 02:00 Why These Stages Repeat 03:40 Kübler-Ross on Depression as Protection 05:45 What to Do if Depression Doesn’t Lift 06:50 Questions to Help You Understand Your Sadness 08:20 Giving Yourself Permission to Feel 09:30 Treating Depression Like a Visitor (Billie Holiday Example) 11:00 Timed Emotional Processing (The “10-Minute Rule”) 13:00 A Personal Story: The New House & the Midnight Walks 15:20 How Depression Shows Up in Real Life 17:30 Grieving Your Past and the Future You Imagined 19:10 The Many “Secondary Losses” After Divorce 20:00 Practical Strategies to Manage Depression 22:00 The Timer Technique, Movement & Energy Shifts 23:00 The 5-4-3-2-1 Grounding Tool 24:20 When Depression Becomes Serious 26:00 Handling Other People’s Impatience About Your Grief 28:00 Final Thoughts, Encouragement & Next Steps 29:00 Outro