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Do you love endurance training AND want to build muscle, but you've been told you have to pick one? The "cardio kills gains" claim has been around for decades, and if you're over 40, it can feel like an impossible tradeoff between the activities you enjoy and the strength training your body needs. However, the "interference effect" on hypertrophy is negligible when sessions are structured correctly, and adults over 40 might have an advantage. Philip breaks down the evidence-based programming rules that let you combine strength training and endurance without compromising either. You'll learn about the session timing strategy backed by research, why running and cycling create different types of interference, the specific protein and carbohydrate targets concurrent trainees need (especially after 40), and how to monitor recovery so you know when to push hard and when to back off. If you want to stay strong, fit, and healthy for decades through both lifting weights and endurance work, this is your roadmap. Shoutout to listeners Richard G. (60+, cyclist) and Gerwyn (56, runner and cyclist) who both asked how to optimally balance endurance sports with strength training and nutrition. Try the Fitness Lab app (https://bit.ly/fitness-lab-pod20) to get daily adaptive coaching that adjusts your strength training and endurance programming week to week based on your priorities and recovery. Whether you're in a strength-focused block or transitioning to endurance prep, the Coach recalibrates your training, nutrition, and recovery plan as your focus shifts. Exclusive 20% off: https://bit.ly/fitness-lab-pod20 Ask a question for the show: witsandweights.com/question (https://www.witsandweights.com/question) Get your free Muscle-Building Nutrition Blueprint: witsandweights.com/muscle (https://witsandweights.com/muscle) Timestamps 0:00 - Does cardio kill your gains? 2:07 - What the interference effect really means 5:05 - New evidence shrinks the interference effect 6:31 - Fatigue model vs. molecular myth 9:14 - 6-hour cardio scheduling rule 11:15 - Exercise order and same-day strategy 12:18 - Running vs. cycling for muscle building 15:03 - 80/20 cardio split 16:15 - How to program hybrid training (https://bit.ly/fitness-lab-pod20) 17:59 - Why over 40 benefits most 20:32 - Bone density and longevity 21:28 - Protein and carb targets for building muscle 23:10 - Creatine and sleep 27:10 - Bonus: 10-second morning recovery check 📱 Get Fitness Lab (exclusive 20% off) (https://bit.ly/fitness-lab-pod20) - The #1 adaptive fitness and nutrition app. Daily coaching, workouts, and biofeedback-based guidance to help you build muscle and lose fat over 40. 🎓 Join Physique University (https://physique.witsandweights.com/) - Evidence-based strength training, nutrition coaching, and live coaching calls for adults over 40. Build muscle, master your macros, and lose fat with accountability. FREE custom nutrition plan with code FREEPLAN. 👥 Join our Facebook community (https://bit.ly/3vyLDqO) - For adults over 40 who want to build muscle, lose fat, and stop following bad advice. Weekly Q&A threads, coaching insights, and real chat with other lifters. 👋 Ask a question (https://www.witsandweights.com/question) or find Philip Pape on Instagram ( / witsandweights )